Kinda like the Grand format idea that's been going around on this board, but for less whiny, more skilled players.

feel free to ask/discuss the reasons for why cards should or should not be here, but any "this list is stupid" or "wow you can't play yu-gi-oh" comments will probably get you flamed.

That being said...

BEHOLD! The Yu-Gi-Oh! Skilled Format

please actually read the list before you make a comment. You actually have to understand the competitive side of playing to understand this list. But i am willing to rationally discuss this awesome, groundbreaking format. I've been playing this with my friends and the game is so much more fun, skilled and enjoyable.

Discuss.

So basicly, it gets rid of things that fetch.....all so you can run more of stuff like the exodia pieces? I'm sorry but I fail to see how much skill can come into play when you run...

3 left leg
3 right leg
3 right arm
3 left arm

even though you are limited to 1 head, that is easy to fetck out. The cards on the normal advanced list are in their slots for a reason (Though some the reason is less valid than others such as Tsukiomi) and some things have been limited sense the game came out because of their power; like heavy storm, MST, Grand mole, etc. True that back when they were first out you could run 3 MST, but when advanced came out they limited it because it had the ability to break a game.

If you're looking to run this list, go play traditional, because it's almost the same thing.

This list is nothing like traditional. Otherwise I would still be auto-winning with chaos. plus traditional still limits heavy storm and MST to 1 ;]

that being said...

1) Tsukuyomi deserves it's spot on the list. I really shouldn't have to convince you otherwise...

2) The only thing's gone that "fetch" are Sangan and Treeborn Frog. Sangan is a flawed game concept has needed to be on the list for an eternity. Treeborn Frog makes a dozen broken decktypes work. no one used tributes before treeborn frog. Now they run decks with 10+tributes...conincidence? I think not. Treeborn Frog is a card which promotes mindless aggro decks. (A.K.A. unskilled decks).
Players should have a better answer than to smash the players field, summon a monster and then bash.

3) Yes, there are 3X pieces of each limb, but running 3X pieces of each limb is suicide, leaving less room for thinning and more room for failure. There are also way easy answers to Exodia (mind crush is at 3 now, which devastates Exodia).
Not to mention the fact that Exodia has never been consistent, and this list hardly makes it so. Especially with Sangan gone. HOw are you going to "easily" search out Exodia the Forbidden one btw? ;]

4) MST at 3 is not a problem. In fact, it's what this game needs. Heavy storm possibly deserves to be at 2, but S/T removal balances out the mill/burn/stall decks which have been allowed to return. UDE and Konami have done an amazing job of turning this game into mindless bashing. They killed every decktype which allowed a player to take the time they need to build up a strategy and make that skilled move for the win. This list allows you to do so.

grand mole makes for some broken combos, but again, grand mole is a balanced card. it's not like he bounces, and then you swing with him. he returns to your hand as well, costing you field presence. to consistently pull off mind crush time seal and grand mole combos requires alot of stacking or some unusual luck.

if you ran 3X copy of every good card that came off the list, you'd have a 100 card deck. Which is auto-lose.



For a player who consistently claims that CC decks ruin the game, I thought you would actually like this list...it promotes a game of 20 viable deck options rather than 4.

I would run perfect circle or some DW thingy.

and you could.
but treeborn frog, crush card and morphing jar are off the list.

fortunately for dark world, card destruction and mind crush are at 3.
perfect circle still gets raped by this list though.

Frog isnt a huge issue in monarch decks because you still have spy, deko, reaper, sangan, brain, soul, and other things like mali.

Just takes a little protection you can get by without frog but I still enjoy his company. ^_^

exactly. but doesn't the loss of frog make monarchs a more balanced decktype? ;]

Guess so.

Where did everyone go? I think j00 scared them away.

my reputation on this board precedes me.

It must be how f'ing awesome this list is.
**** Yeah, Seaking Horndrill!

O_o?

Congrats?

I was like that once but then I became a member here.

interesting list.

this would really make more skilled players put a lot of thought into their decks.

It's more like...you have to play intelligently, think about your moves and not overextend.

Deck building is important too, but this list focusses on the player.

yes this format sounds great for experienced players maybe everyone wouldn't have the same decks, but that would probably still happen. The one who understand the game the best would have a greatly better chance.

imagine...
a world where the best player actually wins.

yes that would be amazing instead of lucky people who stubble into combos they dont know exist.

and even if players copy good decks, they need to play well or they'll overextend and get punished for it. or play too conservatively and get smash'd.

This list look's bad.

ok.

Um, limit ARA plz. >.>;. ARA, throw out Exodia pieces(some how have the head in the grave), instant Exodia Necross. =/

exodia necross is a stupid card =/
plus like I said, there's no way to search out the head.

but even still, the possibility of running necross shows this is a list that makes for a variety of decktypes.

Let me tell you about a pig Ino left the farm about an hour ago sitting in the stall by itself in a barn near downtown hell.

Then I gutted it and puts it on a grill and served it all the homeless peoples of america.

Necross for the lost.

lol if i knew what half these cards were, i haven't played since the booster with treeborn frog came out, anyone know where i can go to look at packs and the cards in them, i totally forgot, and if this is spam on your thread i apologize in advance.

Dont worry about it.

Go here for Set after SOI.
http://duelisthq.net/index.php?showtopic=7209

Every other set you can just look up.
I usually just go to Toywiz or something like that.

netrep.net

you can search for all cards based on set, attribute, type, etc, as well as card rulings.

You know, i keep seeing it saying "No way to search Exodia's head." Um, correct me if wrong, but
Mystic Tomato+Compulsory Evacuation Device?

ridiculous situational combo.

but still, a way to get the head in hand rather easily. So it is searchable.

there are also more ways to punish the hand...

exodia is not a very good option for this format. But this was written so long ago...it's a response for a completely different format.

I'm actually quite happy with our current list.

Ya in this current format, there are alot of diverse decks that are doing well instead of like 1 or 2 deck on top of the mountain.

O_o Huray for Yu-gi-Monz!

Goat Control, anyone?

3Scapegoat
3Enemy Controller

???

again, this format is old, but if you can't deal with 4 0/0 tokens, you're already fragged to begin with...

true, with econs, you can control the fiield, but honestly, scapegoat is like a 1 turn stall max to a good deck.

O my.

lol, i love bringing birth to dead topics, 5 month dead topics are my fav.

Really?

Wow.